My Word. Fox's view on the BBC

[miker]

thanks for the link, most useful.

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I found it in google it must be true.

[miker]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/ethics/war/jwlawful.shtml
From a strictly legal point of view UN member states actually have given up their right to wage war, since they are bound by Article 2.4 of the Charter which says that "all members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force".

I still can't find any official government documentation that records declaration of war on Iraq. Even on google.

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I found it on the BBC's website so it must be true

[Kev Owens]

There is no war in Iraq. I don't see any reports of anyone officially declaring war on Iraq.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I didn't realise anyone on here had said there was!!!

Are we getting too far away from films here? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? [img]graemlins/smarty.gif[/img]

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ December 22, 2004 08:33 AM: Message edited by: Kev O. ]</font>

[Chance1234]

war its a nasty business but makes great films.

[jb_617]

Sorry Miker, I always try to include my sources. I forgot that time.

Try this one:

http://ods-dds-ny.un.org/doc/UNDOC/G...df?OpenElement

Scroll down to Page 3 paragraph 1. UN recognition of material breach of the 1991 ceasefire agreement. The whole argument was not about declaration of war, we'd already done that, but if we should pass another UN resolution or act upon the breach of 1441. The coalition force decided to act. It did not legally require further acts to do so, but in my opinion was wrong to invade at that time. As you can see from paragraph 2, the UNSC voted for more time. It's a legal minefield.

KevO, I promise we'll get back to films now.

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If you can't trust Kofi Annan, who can you trust?

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[jb_617]

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[Chance1234]

war its a nasty business but makes great films.

[miker]

Originally posted by Chance1234:
war its a nasty business but makes great films.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">and very very disturbing documentaries.

"Each second we live is a new and unique moment of the universe, a moment that will never be again... And what do we teach our children? We teach them that two and two make four, and that Paris is the capital of France.

When will we also teach them what they are?

We should say to each of them:

Do you know what you are? You are a marvel. You are unique. In all the years that have passed, there has never been another child like you. Your legs, your arms, your clever fingers, the way you move.

You may become a Shakespeare, a Michaelangelo, a Beethoven. You have the capacity for anything. Yes, you are a marvel. And when you grow up, can you then harm another who is, like you, a marvel?"

[jb_617]

Originally posted by miker:
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"Each second we live is a new and unique moment of the universe, a moment that will never be again... And what do we teach our children? We teach them that two and two make four, and that Paris is the capital of France.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Whereas it is, of course, more desirable to have a world of illiterate, ill educated people who are starving to death for want of modern conveniences.

Oh, wait a minute, I just realised, WE DO.


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The world is fucked. Deal with it.

[Chance1234]

If i had my way, i would say to all the children of the world,

"Your shift in the mine starts at 4AM "